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As the sole supplier to many distribution outlets and for these reasons, it is difficult to understand how this move by Calor improves the cylinder experience for recreational boaters or maintains a reliable service for cylinder customers who rely on the smaller sizes. The RYA has therefore urged Calor to reconsider its decision to discontinue the sizes that many boaters rely on. It's CERTAINLY not without risk, which convenience/profits of Calor aside, is not something to dismiss too lightly. As with many things, all well whilst it works OK, BUT a need to consider what happens when it goes wrong! You can get the proper liquid to test for leaks, such as Calor's biodegradable gas leak detector. The Gas Spanner After months of shortages and problems exchanging empty bottles for full, Calor Gas have now offically confirmed that some smaller size gas bottles will be permanently discontinued, including the very popular 4.5kg Butane and 3.9kg Propane sized cylinders. These means their options are very limited, and realistically the only alternative is the Campingaz 907 which contains 2.72kg of gas. You'll obviously need a new regulator for this, and please note Campingaz gas is (far) more expensive than Calor.
Start Camping Camping Tips Fitting a Regulator to your Gas Cylinder Fitting a Regulator to your Gas Cylinder Posted by Gav Grayston. The ferry companies and the Channel Tunnel are making it unlawful to transport any size or type of gas cylinder across the Channel in a car. We may in future have to buy disposable Campingaz cans in French supermarkets when we go car camping in Europe. If you currently have a 4.5kg Butane cylinder, you'll need a new regulator to switch to a 7kg Butane bottle. It is always recommended to use a gas-safe registered engineer when changing regulators, though Calor has produced a YouTube video, see below. All our regulators are colour coded to match the corresponding cylinder colours. Our butane regulators are blue in colour to match butane gas cylinders and our propane regulators are red in colour to match the red propane gas cylinders. There isn’t a protective cap on your patio gas bottle, so make sure the top of the valve is nice and cleanIf the washing-up liquid bubbles when the regulator is open, your clips aren’t secure enough, and you have a gas leak. Has anyone looked into the practicalities or pricing of switching to a French gas supplier eg Primagaz ? Calor Gas is advising customers with 4.5kg butane cylinders to switch to a 7kg bottle. A new regulator will be needed I think people are confusing LPG powered vehicles with gas bottles, LPG powered vehicles aren't allowed on Eurotunnel.
It is recommending that customers who use 4.5kg butane cylinders now switch to a 7kg butane cylinder; a new regulator is needed to make the switch and Calor Gas said it won’t be covering the cost of a new regulator.Spring, autumn and especially winter campers need propane or at least a propane/butane mix on cold days. The existing 907 Campingaz cylinders (they are discontinuing 901 and 904 cylinders to concentrate on automated 907 refilling) are not designed to use a winter propane/butane mix. The use of Campingaz 907 is not therefore a substitute for the loss of small Calor Gas propane cylinders.
Can I suggest we use the Calor complaints form to get them to reconsider, stating the reasons why this is A Bad Thing https://www.calor.co.uk/complaints How do you decant? Just asked OH and he doesn't know/understand. Are we talking ordinary calor or safefill? This means that customers won’t be able to buy new cylinders or exchange existing cylinders of these sizes for a refill. Why are these sizes being discontinued? Car camping customers who use small Calor Gas cylinders will cease to be customers; caravan, domestic and industrial users of larger gas cylinders will get the same service. If they don't have to deliver so many gas cylinders they'll simply use smaller or fewer lorries. Hence this is an improvement in customer service. As many welders & lpg users in the trade know, a qualified person is only allowed legally to refill lpg cylinders as unlike lpg vehicles these simple cylinders have no PRD (Pressure Relief Device) & many lethal problems can arise from "overfilling".
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Yes, you can continue to return items as normal as long as you follow the government guidelines about leaving your house. Only 80% of the cylinder volume is the maximum safe permitted amount, if not there are high risks of fuel discharge, leaks & damage to equipment if the extra 20% is not used immediately to relieve the overfill & travelling to warmer climates will undoubtedly exacerbate the danger..... if that does not cause concern one, then how about an internal leak which may well result in an eternal sleep & the risk of explosion should be obvious to those who work with lpg. If you've got a cylinder regulator rather than a bulkhead one, then just buy a 27mm clip on regulator.
Our existing range of cylinders is creating complexity within our supply chain. This means longer change over times and reduced filling capacity on high volume key sizes. That’s why we’ve taken the difficult decision to reduce our cylinder range, simplifying the business,” said a spokesperson for Calor Gas. You will need to fit a 21mm Clip-on Butane regulator if you change up to a 7kg Butane cylinder from a 4.5kg Butane cylinder. We are not going to bother with it either. We weren't quite blown out of bed by the Buncefield explosion. It was like an enormous clap of thunder here, just north of Luton
The smaller size 4.5kg butane bottles are extremely popular with many campers and campervan owners, however unfortunatley many campervans will not have space to replace the small 4.5 size with a larger Calor version and many tenters may not have room for the larger 7kg bottle. In what Calor term as a "simplification" of the range ( certainly not simple for many existing customers) the sizes being removed from their range are the Cube, 3.9kg Propane, 4.5kg Butane, 6Lite Propane and 12kg Butane cylinders. In theory it can be exchanged for a 4.5kg Butane, so I phoned Flo Gas, who were very helpful. They said that at the moment, because of the high demand due to the Calor discontinuations, they could only swap it for another 7kg (although swapping over to the newer 21mm was not a problem) so only an exact size swap is currently possible. As well as 4,5kg butane cylinders, Calor Gas is also discontinuing the Cube, 3.9kg Propane, 6Lite Propane and 12kg Butane cylinders from 1 February 2023. However, Calor has taken this decision for commercial reasons and it is unlikely to change its position. It is also a fact that a great many boaters already use alternative supplies such as Campingaz and will be unaffected by Calor’s announcement. Calor Replacement Cylinders
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